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 Post subject: Otter advice. ...
PostPosted: 18 Sep 2013, 21:09 
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So I was out setting a couple nuisance beaver traps on a small lake next to the road. While I was there 3 otters were swimming around. I would like some of you to share your wisdom with me on what sets I should use come trapping time. The shoreline was shallow...surrounded by tall grass and cattails.....and about 2 feet of mud between the water and weeds. There also is a 6 ft wide culvert under the road which is an outlet to the lake. The water is about 3/4 filling the culvert. So how should I go about catching those critters? Thanks for your help!!

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out of the few otter we took last year a couple were taken just as jase described and we also got a couple on castor mound drowner sets set for beaver

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PostPosted: 20 Sep 2013, 18:54 
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How about the fish set? Where you connect some fish on a stick a foot or so in the water and place traps next it?

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it would probably work just fine but I would check your local laws first here that is considered sight bait and is illegal and might also catch critters you don't want

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PostPosted: 20 Sep 2013, 22:03 
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peace keeper wrote:
it would probably work just fine but I would check your local laws first here that is considered sight bait and is illegal and might also catch critters you don't want


Yeah...good point. I will have to check that out.

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Have you located any otter toilets or landings?

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Swamp Rat wrote:
Have you located any otter toilets or landings?


No....I only have access to the water near the road. I have not seen any toilets in that small area.

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Westside where do you want to try and catch these otter? Do you have access to the whole lake or just part of it?". There is so much of a wide range of what you are trying to figure out.


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wolf1199 wrote:
Westside where do you want to try and catch these otter? Do you have access to the whole lake or just part of it?". There is so much of a wide range of what you are trying to figure out.


I would like to catch them next to the road where I only have access. It is a strip of land about 200 feet long with the 6 ft culvert in the middle. The culvert is covered with somekind of "anti-beaver damming" iron grate. It covers the entire culvert opening and the holes are about 8 inches wide by 6 inches tall. Looks like an otter could easily go through it so to me it looks like trapping that side of the culvert would difficult. That other side of the culvert is wide open though.

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Here is a pic of a nuisance beaver I got there a couple days ago. The rocks are piled up on both sides of the culvert. You can see the shoreline in the background. Cattails and then shallow muddy water. I assume if the otters want to crossover the road then would just walk over the rocks. Rocks surround the other side of the culver also so there is no difinitive trail I can see for a crossover. The outlet is a small river so i'm sure the otters use it. Along the road the cattails are only a few feet deep, then a foot of mud and then shallow water.

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 Post subject: Re: Otter advice. ...
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jase wrote:
I would think the road dike is the key. The culvert will need set I think, some how. I find often otters will use near the top of a dike or pond dam as a toilet. Look carefully for any evidence, as their scat deteriorates pretty fast. Look for whitish and bleached out fish scales. Most often that will tell you where they are crossing. I have not seen many dikes or pond dams when otters were around that had no scat. Its very easy to overlook as it often isn't in log form like most animals turds are. I walked past a toilet probably 20 times before I realized what that "stuff" was. I can't say enough to look it over very good for piles of fish scales. Fresh its more greenish looking ooze with scales and or crayfish parts with strong fish odor.. Its important to know if they are crossing as that puts them at a disadvantage you can use.

Around here this time of year those otter cross overs are harder to see than they are later in the fall or winter.
Nice beaver catch.


It isn't a dike......it is a road. 8) I walked around there yesterday....no luck on scat piles. I'm sure around the lake somewhere they have their toilets. Just not where I can trap. I'm sure they use the outlet river.....just not sure how to trap them.

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Here is a Google Earth pic of the spot.

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You can see the lake on the right side of the road. The mushy weedy look stuff between the road and the dark deeper water is shallow water that goes darn near up to the road. You can see the small river that goes out the left side. This should give you a visual of the setup. Surrounding the river on both sides is solid cattails for a LONG ways.

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Myself would look at the creek for setting up on the left side of road. Can you access the creek? Narrow spots are good sets for otter.


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 Post subject: Re: Otter advice. ...
PostPosted: 28 Sep 2013, 18:48 
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jase wrote:
A few more questions WS.

Is that the only inlet/outlet on the lake?

Is there other ponds and lakes near by in the area?

How far does the drainage flow before it meets a larger drainage?


Just from looking at the map there is an inlet to the lake on the other side of the lake. Looking at the map it looks like the water system goes for quite a long ways before and after the lake.

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