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Author:  NonPCfed [ 30 Dec 2016, 19:25 ]
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Here's a little story about my first experience with Groenwold Fur & Wool Co.

So GFW does 3 stops in se SD, with the last one in my bedroom town. I don't know why they picked this spot but maybe because it has good fast transportation access. And I'm sure the Groeny guy has been making his way through western Iowa and the SD stops are at the end of the day. I've never been to a Groeny wagon before and dug out 4 1 XL winter caught coon from my freezer that I didn't ship to NAFA last year. I was going to tan them this past warm season but didn't get it done. Wasn't real keen on selling them green for $2 bucks a piece but I thought "what the H***", I'll check GFW out to see what's its like.

9 minutes!!!! 9 minutes is all the rat wagon was there after the start of the posted time and he was already packed up and leaving the parking lot. I got messed up coming in from the back of this establishment where the city has streets and business parking lots that don't hook up so I had I had to come in from the front. The wagon was still there when I found my second blocked access and had to go around front but he was on the roll 90 seconds later.

At least the SD NAFA schedule has a minimum of 15 minute intervals at stops. The Groeny schedule listed only a start time at this last stop, no end point. The other 2 SD stops are supposedly an hour long. Screw 'em! I'm going to order my tanning supplies this weekend (have to order some taxidermy forms anyway to mount a couple things for my kid) and I'll tan those 4 coon skins in my utility room and have them on ebay sometime in January. Sure, I could have been there exactly at the start time but 9 minutes for a stop...?? What a p*** poor way to build new customers!!!

Author:  remrogers [ 30 Dec 2016, 19:58 ]
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Obviously wasn't too interested in building any kind of relationship with the folks in your area. I agree that 9 minutes is not a long wait and think they should have stayed at least half an hour at each stop. Some folks take longer to go to the head then they waited.

Author:  trapperrick [ 02 Jan 2017, 11:22 ]
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I always see the Groenwold advertisements in the various trapping magazines I get. They don't have any pick up points here in the east but have considered shipping to them. I never did since we have a NAFA fur pick up just 10 miles from my house plus there is an FHA rep that lives just 15 miles from here and he does pick ups throughout western Pennsylvania, western Maryland and northern West Virginia. I'm not sure how long the FHA rep waits at the various pick up points but the NAFA guy doesn't hang around at my stop all that long if nobody is around. I didn't ship anything either last season but during the 2015 stop I was the only one in the parking lot when he arrived. I handed him my fur, he gave me a receipt and took off for his next destination. That all took less than 10 minutes as well.

Author:  trappintime [ 02 Jan 2017, 11:48 ]
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PC, they may have made you money[certainly more work]. Pretty sad for sure.

Author:  NonPCfed [ 02 Jan 2017, 20:05 ]
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tt- Yep, I will keep track of these 4 xl coon when I tan them with my costs. The wifey says she doesn't like the "smell" when I tan critter skins so I will probably have to wait until April to do them out in the garage instead of in our basement. Just have to do it for sure this year. The GFW website is saying $2 a piece for a "northwestern, select, good color" coon hide of that size in the grease, so I would have probably been lucky to make $10. That's sort of my "threshold" of what I would sell a single fleshed & dried coon hide for (I'm a slow skinner & flesher) before the big price crash so wasn't real excited about what they were going to offer me anyways. Back into the freezer (or just bagged up on the garage floor starting tomorrow) for a while...

Author:  Chieftain [ 03 Jan 2017, 08:23 ]
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Groeny,has a pick up near me ..the longest ive seen them there was 20 min.s..i wasn't impressed...

Author:  FormerlyCherokee71 [ 03 Jan 2017, 19:39 ]
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They're are here in N. Illinois too, when they show up its screw city the whole way good thing I trap for a bounty.

Author:  NonPCfed [ 03 Jan 2017, 22:29 ]
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Yeah, they're out of Forreston, IL which I guess in the nw corner of the state.

A lot of discussion about "Groney" over on the "brown" trapping forum. Some guys thinks they're great, other guys wouldn't sell to them no way. The bottom line is that a fur buyer is out to make money first and foremost. When a the fur market is down and/or volatile, fur buyers are going to hedge their bets and buy absolutely as low as possible so they don't to lose money or minimize the loss. On the other hand, buyers have to walk a tight rope of not alienating most of their sellers as well. GFW has been around a long time and have survived. As I said, they have their supporters and their slammers. I was willing to give them a try this year but their driver's itch ended that situation. Then again, I produce so little it would make no difference to someone of GFW's size even if they cared a lot about customer service. So it goes...

Author:  trapperrick [ 05 Jan 2017, 18:33 ]
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It's amazing how fur selling has changed for me over the years. During my first year trapping, 1979-80 season, there were no less than 5 fur buyers within a ten mile radius of my house. The guy I took my furs to actually lived down the road from me back then. He was a taxidermist that bought furs and since I wasn't driving yet it was very convenient but he was a guy known throughout the area that would low-ball trappers. But, those older guys that could drive around and shop their pelts to the highest bidder.
As time rolled into the late 80's and the fur market crash many of those buyers disappeared. I had to drive further away to find a buyer. In one instance, I drove 20 miles to one buyer and I wasn't pleased with his offer then drove another 30 miles in the opposite direction to another buyer only to be offered 80% of my original offer... :evil:
Then by the time the late 90's and early 2000's came I started going to the PA Trappers Association auctions. This made it easy because there were a few fur buyers there competing for lots. After a few years of that I started hearing grumblings from other trappers about collusion. They would say that the buyers would get together before the auction and agree not to go above a certain amount but split the offers evenly. Whether this was true or not I really don't know but I did start to wonder.
Then in 2009, I started sending to NAFA. I was totally sold on this after my first year because friends of mine sold their raccoons at at the local PTA Auction where I used to sell and averaged $11.00 each and when my coons went at the NAFA Auction I averaged $19.00 each!

I often thought of becoming a fur buyer and seriously looked into it 3 years ago when work was getting thin at my old job and the fur market still looked half decent. I even went as far as emailing NAFA to see how to become an agent. They never did get back to me.. :roll:

I think I just discovered my next article I'm going to write about. :lol:

Author:  wolf1199 [ 05 Jan 2017, 19:59 ]
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Well TR you can thank us Canucks for the auction houses. Been a god send for both our countries.

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