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 Post subject: muskrat question
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2015, 18:56 
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fellas. i went and checked my muskrat traps today and had 2 muskrat and 3 coons. but at one spot i have not cault any rats. but when i checked them this morning there where 5 muskrat swimming around in the creek and nothing in my traps. i guess i don't have what they want to eat. i lost a trap yesterday to a dam coon. i have some 110's baited with apples and a few pocket sets with picked corn and lure. but the rats holes are on the other side on the creek and its only about 8 or 10 feet across. so does anyone have any ideal to what i can do to draw them to my traps? thanks


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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2015, 19:39 
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Id do 2 maybe 3 things denny. This time of year a gland type lure will draw better then foods. If i was to use a food type lure id use plain white tooth paste of mint flavor....a great woodswalker trick that works. A combo of the 2 would be great. The possible third thing id do is ditch the baited 110's and use #1 footholds instead on a drowning type shallow pocket set. Also, folks have luck with apple, so have I. But rats are primarily root eaters. I cannot find a better natural bait then parsnips. Backwoods has said before turnip works. Even carrot i find better then apple....parsnips are my first choice though. Add the lure described above with them and you should connect. I like the white color ofthe parsnips too.

Why not just catch them at the den entrance with 110's?

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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2015, 19:57 
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I think ive caught more coons in footholds with apples then rats. If legal/possible id just trap their runs like Amak said. Can you trap that side? Sometimes critters wont leave their regular trails for bait/lure. I always try to set on sign. If you cant trap that side or the waters too deep a float might add a few rats? Creek rats can be peculiar critters. Ive seen what you described before. My first creek trapping was that way too. I ended up walking several miles of creek to find their dens. I caught very few in footholds or traditional sets. Just plopped 110's in their runs. If legal there a colony trap is cheap and easy to make. Ive used a few in other states and lovem more then 110's.

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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2015, 20:42 
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I would have to say parsnip is one very good bait for rats. Have used apple and the wife's carrots before. But some times a good lure is all that is needed. Although the rats live on the other side of your 10 foot wide creek they frequent both sides. What type of lure are you using. Funnel traps never work very good on rivers and floats seem to work better in spring then fall. Post a few pics for us to get some better detail as to your situation.


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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2015, 20:49 
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Parsnips would definitely catch me, there ain't nothing better than parsnips and taters. :twisted: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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doc9013 wrote:
Parsnips would definitely catch me, there ain't nothing better than parsnips and taters. :twisted: :lol: :lol:


what about parsnips and taters, PLUS washing it down with a lil brew? Huh? Better? :--D

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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2015, 21:33 
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for some reason rats make it there duty to climb on any log.
or board they find, so try floats. also make lots of pockets sets
with some baby carrots . you,l do better in the runs with some
bigger conis like 150&159s this time of year
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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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hello, the side where the rats den is is too deep and has a lot of over hanging tree and brush limbs. i will get a picture tomorrow. and i may switch to parsnips also. this info helps me a lot guys. thank you all for the help. i will go tomorrow and get some dynamite and blast them out.....lol


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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2015, 22:26 
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hello, the side where the rats den is is too deep and has a lot of over hanging tree and brush limbs. i will get a picture tomorrow. and i may switch to parsnips also. this info helps me a lot guys. thank you all for the help. i will go tomorrow and get some dynamite and blast them out.....lol


That will work, but remember you have to be there to pick them up after :mrgreen: What is a tater? some kind of vegtable :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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yes tater is a veggie also a mater...


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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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Plain pocket without any bait or lure will work, make the hole big so they can't miss it(little bigger than a softball), if you don't mind the coons squirt a little fish oil around the pocket and of course stake like you're gonna get a coon(always stake like you're gonna get a coon or beaver or otter when water trapping, never know what you'll get). Seriously try a big pocket, think you'll connect. If your holes on the pockets you had already set were huge obviously I am wrong, could get a mink too. Good luck buddy!!

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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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Amak wrote:
doc9013 wrote:
Parsnips would definitely catch me, there ain't nothing better than parsnips and taters. :twisted: :lol: :lol:


what about parsnips and taters, PLUS washing it down with a lil brew? Huh? Better? :--D


Take out the " lil " part and I agree . :wink: :wink:
Denny, if you can get to the other side, set some 110's in the holes. Always worked for me.

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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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its to deep doc and it has a bunch of over hanging brush.


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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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bronco2 wrote:
its to deep doc and it has a bunch of over hanging brush.


well then I like your dynamite idea. :twisted: :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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me too.....lol


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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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some times ya just have to blow them up


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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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set them 110's tight to that overhanging bank. half in and half out of water . might be surprised what is swimming around there!
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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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Thats how we do ours too coon crazy. Cat meow for runs/dens, a lot quicker then trying to balance a 110 with sticks. If you make the spike long enough it doesnt need stabilized just stick a little Y stick thru the chain eye etc..

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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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I love the coni pic, what a great idea, to bad season
is over in pa.


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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
PostPosted: 26 Jan 2015, 21:04 
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well i put the waders on today after a 4 night of nothing and set the other side of the creek. i found some shallow spot where they are swimming into to feed. like a half circle kind of shape. and i put a coni on a slide and 2 foot holds on 2 different spots with a pc of parsnips and some bread and butter lure. and we will see what happens. couldnt find the holes. they where 2 deep under water. thanks for all the help.


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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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picked up one rat and had 2 sprung traps..


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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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punch in a cubby hole and guard it with a trap. the fresh dirt will be your lure.

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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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wolf1199 wrote:
bronco2 wrote:
hello, the side where the rats den is is too deep and has a lot of over hanging tree and brush limbs. i will get a picture tomorrow. and i may switch to parsnips also. this info helps me a lot guys. thank you all for the help. i will go tomorrow and get some dynamite and blast them out.....lol


That will work, but remember you have to be there to pick them up after :mrgreen: What is a tater? some kind of vegtable :lol:

Tater is the thought in your head just before it becomes road kill :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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Those round spots they use are probably feed beds. Set a foothold right in the center. I prefer the trap to be underwater but thats not always possible. Chain/wire it well out into deeper water and a drowning stick halfway out aint a bad idea. Coons stumble into the set too. You can bait/lure it if you wish but its not always necessary. I prefer heavier traps at feed beds bût coil springs are easier to place. Good guard traps are handy too. Just make sure the rat can get out to deeper water. Some prefer guard traps(stop loss) because sometimes the rat tangles up in the nearby vegetation. You can also make fake slide sets. Theres many posts on fake slides if you do a search you'll get several ideas. Congrats on the catch. Rats are good and prime, nows the time to board a mess of'em.

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 Post subject: Re: muskrat question
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Is there to set out a float or any blind set along the bank and if you find the den.... Open it up and 1 1/2 stop loss in the open area of the den or the hut


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