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 Post subject: Rats Line
PostPosted: 10 Nov 2014, 17:44 
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I set my first trap of the season today!! :D I only had time for one set sadly. Hope everyone's line is going good!!


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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
PostPosted: 10 Nov 2014, 18:51 
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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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Good looking set. Got a chance to put more out?

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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
PostPosted: 13 Nov 2014, 21:30 
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Thanks!! I got one more put in yesterday. Now we got hit with a couple inches of snow sadly. It too early for all this white stuff :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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We got snow today but its just a skiff so far. Grounds freezing though, ugh. Aint lookin forward to poundin in K9sets!

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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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We are suppose to get more tonight. And yeah wolf I can only imagine what it's like up there :lol: at least it makes deer hunting a little easier :D


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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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Good luck with you line Rat! We got about 2 inches snow today also.

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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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I hope you get both a deer and some fur!!

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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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Well no luck yet :( with only two sets out I can't expect a lot I guess. I've always had good luck at this particular spot so maybe tomorrow :D it just started spitting snow again and we are suppose to get 2-5 inches by tomorrow morning. Muskrat opens on the 22nd :lol: :mrgreen: I can't wait


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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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Well mixed news today. I had a fox step right on the pan but with the thawing and freezing everything was froze solid :evil: but at least I know that they are there and came right where I wanted so that aspect make me happy! Hope everyone has a great day!!


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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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You setting for muskrats this Saturday?


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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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Yup Browning gonna set at least one pond. How bout you?


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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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Nice job on the muskrats!

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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
PostPosted: 26 Nov 2014, 18:40 
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Yup Browning gonna set at least one pond. How bout you?



Nice work!!!! I have been setting a few small ponds, 11 rats so far, no mink yet. Good luck, I hope you slam them!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
PostPosted: 26 Nov 2014, 19:17 
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No mink for me yet either browning! Picked up 3 more rats in today's check. Up to 5 in two days!


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PostPosted: 26 Nov 2014, 23:37 
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Your doing good, just keep at it.


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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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Congrats.. Keep hammerin those rats!

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PostPosted: 27 Nov 2014, 10:24 
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Got 4 more rats today plus a possum :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
PostPosted: 27 Nov 2014, 13:12 
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You're living up to your moniker :)

What if you had this guy's "problem"?? I bet no matter their eventual fur check, I suspect he's tired of looking at mrats. Don't know if I buy his claim that they "didn't put a dent" in that local population. Even though mrats are a prolific breeder, I suspect they won't be able to go back to the same wetlands and repeat this haul next year all conditions staying the same. It will be interesting to see if they do and then brag it up if the haul isn't as high.

Not that this personal experience holds everywhere but in 2010 I took either 46 or 48 rats out of about a 3 acre or so slough in the middle of a ag field. I went back the next year and only took about 12-15 although conditions were changing as the drought of 2011-2012 was taking a hold and the wetland was starting to dry up. In eastern SD we've had probably a triple+ whammy of several drought periods, high harvest because of top $$ for rats, drainage patterns changed by farmers so that a good number of cattail/bulrush marshes have became open water lakes, and possibly a disease and/or possibly increased predation dramatically decrease our muskrat population.

In 2011, there was an estimated mrat harvest in this state of nearly 300,000 (2011 was very wet early on and then very dry after August). Last year, the estimated harvest was less than 20,000. When will we return to the "old" days? Your guess is as good as mine...

http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthre ... ost4739374

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Yes I'm very thankful for the rats Ive caught so far!! I just hope it keeps up :mrgreen: :lol: As for the muskrat population question I think that you can definitely overharvest them but from the numbers you said there has to be a greater cause. I blame low populations on drought, disease and to a lesser extent mink. I've noticed a rise in mink population in a certain area over the past couple years. I have a friend who is in such an area. He used to get 25-30 rats every year but the past couple years the mink population has gone way up. Now instead of those 25-30 rats he now getting maybe 10-15 out of this area. I know it's a small sample size but I still think it has something to do with it. Maybe it's just me overthinking things :mrgreen: What do you guys think??


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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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I think more rats die from starvation and non human predation, especially from raptors, than trappers. The saving grace about rats is their ability to reproduce obviously. If the habitat is there, the rats will occupy it heavily IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Rats Line
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'Rats are a prey species and have many enemies besides drought/ draining wetlands etc. the high fur prices probably didnt help. I think our biggest rat predation problem here is otters. Ive found a lot of fur in otter scat and if youve got otters then theres no rats here. So far on our small line this year theres no otter sign and we're catchin a few rats and seeing signs of more. But mink numbers are up too, or were, none so far this year but we dont have a lot of sets out they can stumble into. I do expect a few in rat runs and wet barricade sets. Mink love to jump in on occasion and ride a current downstream. At $8-$12 i dont really want to board a bunch of'em. Leavem for seed, espescially the sows.

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