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PostPosted: 24 Jun 2017, 18:59 
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I have a question for you guys.

I just purchased my 2017-18 hunting and trapping license. There has been a lot of discussion over on the PA Hunting website about the PA Game Commission asking for a license increase. The license cost has been the same since 1998. Pretty incredible if you think about it, 19 years without any increase.

My question is, what do you pay for a hunting /trapping license in your state or province?

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PostPosted: 24 Jun 2017, 21:28 
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Ya, and the PGC just killed Ringneck hunting by adding a $25.00 stamp or permit!

It's long over due for the Fish, Game and DCNR to combine and perhaps the Fish & Game Commissions can benefit from PA's Billion dollar a year logging business.

Besides, they could cut a bunch of jobs in all three to reduce operating costs, but our State Legislature and Governor like that money for their political programs!

I am not at all in favor of a price increase.


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PostPosted: 25 Jun 2017, 06:23 
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Well Roadawg, I'm in favor of the pheasant stamp, if you hunt them and the PGC has to raise these "ditch chickens" for hunters to shoot them right out of the crate they ship them in then $25.00 is more than fair. I think it should be $40.00! The Game Commission hasn't had a license increase since 1998. So, I guess nothing else increased in that amount of time. Below are the average price of items in 1998.

Cost of a first-class stamp:-$0.32
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Median Household Income:-$38,568.00-

Cost of a gallon of regular gas:-$1.06
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Cost of a dozen eggs:-$1.09
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Cost of a gallon of Milk:-$3.16 (Farmers have a right to gripe about this!)

PA Hunting License: $20.50-

Your Yearly Salary in 1998 compared to today: $?

It's time to grow up Pennsylvania Hunters. We really don't live in a world where everybody gets a trophy and everything is free despite the popular way the liberals force this agenda down throats of our youth today.

So, for those of you who want to rail on a state agency, The Pennsylvania Legislators have given themselves a 1.32% ANNUAL SALARY INCREASE. Nothing ever said though.....

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PostPosted: 25 Jun 2017, 09:59 
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this is just a start..but keep in mind ILL. is the most corrupte state of all..this is just a very parcial list..not including dove waterfowl ect.ect.but with the state being 21 trillion in debt they got make money some how.
License/ Permit

Fee

Available Online

Available thru Vendors

Available thru Phone

Paper Application Available

Permit/ License ID

Resident Lifetime Sportsmen's Combination Hunting/Fishing License $765.00 Paper 805
Resident Senior Sportsmen's Combination Hunting/Fishing License $13.50 Online Vendor List 1-888-673-7648 225
Resident Sportsmen's Combination Hunting/Fishing License $26.25 Online Vendor List 1-888-673-7648 200
Resident Veteran Sportsmen's Combination Hunting/Fishing License (Prior Certification Required) $13.50 Online Vendor List 1-888-673-7648 203 .......
License/ Permit

Fee

Available Online

Available thru Vendors

Paper Application Available

Ginseng Harvest License $7.50 Online Vendor List
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License/ Permit

Fee

Available Online

Available thru Phone

Available thru Vendors

Paper Application Available

Non-Resident Trapping License (with state reciprocity) $175.50 Online 1-888-673-7648 Vendor List
Non-Resident Trapping License (without state reciprocity) $250.50 Online 1-888-673-7648 Vendor List
Resident Trapping License $10.50 Online 1-888-673-7648 Vendor List
Resident Youth Trapping * $7.50 Online Vendor List
Electronic State Habitat Stamp $5.50 Online 1-888-673-7648 Vendor List
Resident Super Senior Habitat Stamp $0.50 Online Vendor List
Bobcat Hunting and trapping permit OTC- sales begin November 5 $5.50 Vendor List
Otter Temporary Permit-purchase 48 hours after trapping otter $5.50 Vendor List

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License/ Permit

Fee

Available Online

Available thru Vendors

Paper Application Available

Permit/ License ID

Resident (E/S) Muzzleloader permit- sale begins mid-October. $25.50 Vender List 254
Resident Deer Archery Over the Counter Permit (Antlerless Only) $15.50 Vendor List 164
Resident Deer Archery Over the Counter Permit (Either Sex & Antlerless Only) $26.00 Vendor List 160
Resident Deer Firearm Lottery Permit Application (Antlerless Only) $17.50 Online Paper 112
Resident Deer Firearm Lottery Permit Application (Either Sex & Antlerless Only) $42.50 Online Paper 111
Resident Deer Firearm Lottery Permit Application (Either Sex) $25.00 Online Paper 110
Resident Deer Firearm Over the Counter County Permit (Antlerless Only) $18.00 Vendor List 251
Resident Deer Firearm Over the Counter County Permit (Either Sex) $25.50 Vendor List 250
Resident Deer Muzzleloader Lottery Permit Application (Antlerless Only) $17.50 Online Paper 117
Resident Deer Muzzleloader Lottery Permit Application (Either Sex & Antlerless Only) $42.50 Online Paper 116
Resident Deer Muzzleloader Lottery Permit Application (Either Sex) $25.00 Online Paper 115
Resident Deer Muzzleloader Over the Counter County Permit (Antlerless Only) $18.00 Vendor List 255
Resident Deer Muzzleloader Over the Counter County Permit (Either Sex) $25.50 Vendor List 254
Resident Deer Property Only Hunting (POH) Archery Permit Application (Antlerless Only) $0.00 Paper 141
Resident Deer Property Only Hunting (POH) Archery Permit Application (Either Sex) $0.00 Paper 140
Resident Deer Property Only Hunting (POH) Firearm Permit Application (Antlerless Only) $0.00 Paper 131
Resident Deer Property Only Hunting (POH) Firearm Permit Application (Either Sex) $0.00 Paper 130
Resident Late Winter Firearm Over the Counter County Permit (Antlerless Only) $18.00 Vendor List 196
Resident Late Winter Special Hunt Area (SHA) Permit Application $17.50 Online 197
Resident Super Senior Habitat Stamp $0.50 Online Vendor List 971
Non-Resident (A/O) OTC Firearm Permit-sales begin mid-October $100.50 Vendor List 258
Non-Resident (A/O) OTC Muzzleloader Permit-sales begin mid-October $100.50 Vendor List 259
Non-Resident Bonus (A/O) Firearm Permit-sales begin mid-October-must have either sex permit $25.50 Vender List 253
Non-Resident Deer Archery Permit Application (Either Sex & Antlerless Only) $410.00 Online 244
Non-Resident Deer Firearm Lottery Permit Application (Antlerless Only-Must have either sex permit) $25.00 Online Paper 212
Non-Resident Deer Firearm Lottery Permit Application (Either Sex & Antlerless Only) $325.00 Online Paper 211
Non-Resident Deer Firearm Lottery Permit Application (Either Sex) $300.00 Online Paper 210
Non-Resident Deer Firearm Over the Counter County Permit (Either Sex) $300.50 Vendor List 252
Non-Resident Deer Muzzleloader Lottery Permit Application (Antlerless Only-Must have either sex permit)) $25.00 Online Paper 217
Non-Resident Deer Muzzleloader Lottery Permit Application (Either Sex) $300.00 Online Paper 215
Non-Resident Deer Muzzleloader Lottery Permit Application (Ether Sex & Antlerless Only) $325.00 Online Paper 216
Non-Resident Deer Muzzleloader Over the Counter County Permit (Antlerless Only) $25.50 Vendor List 257
Non-Resident Deer Muzzleloader Over the Counter County Permit (Either Sex) $300.50 Vendor List 256
Non-Resident Deer OTC Bonus Archery Permit (A/O) sales begin in August-must have 247 or landowner permit. $25.50 Online Vendors List 163
Non-Resident Deer Over the Counter Archery Permit (Either Sex & Antlerless Only) $411.00 Online Vendor List 247
Non-Resident Deer Property Only Hunting (POH) Archery Permit Application (Either Sex & Antlerless Only) $210.00 Paper 241
Non-Resident Deer Property Only Hunting (POH) Firearm Permit Application (Antlerless Only) $25.00 Paper 231
Non-Resident Deer Property Only Hunting (POH) Firearm Permit Application (Either Sex) $175.00 Paper 230
Non-Resident OTC Deer (A/O) Archery permit-sales begin in August. $100.50 Vendor List 166
Electronic State Habitat Stamp $5.50 Online Vendor List 970
Resident & Non-Resident Youth Over the Counter Firearm Permit (Either Sex) $10.50 Online Vendor List







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PostPosted: 25 Jun 2017, 10:29 
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Yep, that's where they get you Chief, in the additional stamps and other licenses. Ours is basically the same and I've hunted in West Virginia also and they basically have the same thing as well. You buy a hunting license but you limited on what you can hunt. Below is what I had purchased to hunt and trap this year.

2017 500 RESIDENT ARCHERY $16.90
This privilege will be mailed to the customer and available to print.
2017 501 RESIDENT MUZZLELOADER $11.90
This privilege will be mailed to the customer and available to print. Mailed Privilege Information:
Licenses listed here will be mailed to the address provided during purchase. You should receive this license(s) within 7 to 10 business days. If you do not receive this license(s) within 10 business days

2017 300 RESIDENT ADULT HUNTING $20.90
2017 213 Spring Turkey Tag $0.00
2017 212 Fall Turkey Tag $0.00
2017 206 Antlered or Flintlock Tag $0.00
2017 299 Antlerless Deer Application $0.00
2017 400 RESIDENT ADULT FURTAKER $20.90
2017 503 RESIDENT BEAR $16.90
2017 208 Bear Ear Tag $0.00
2017 532 EITHER SEX ELK APP $10.90
ELK HUNT ZONE NP
2017 548 BOBCAT PERMIT $6.90
2017 209 Bobcat Carcass Tag $0.00
2017 549 FISHER PERMIT $6.90
2017 217 Fisher Carcass Tag $0.00 Payment Information:

Total: $112.20

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PostPosted: 25 Jun 2017, 11:23 
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sad state of affaires Trick...I remember when hunting and fishing was cheap.but now the states have found out how to make money off of it, its really went to hell in a hurry...one thing our state did this year was drop having to have a title to all watercraft that is not motorized ..instead you pay a 6 dollar fee called a water usage stamp. :roll: :roll: ....but sail boats still have to be titled...its so bad here the lottery mega millions and power ball have pulled out of ILL.because the state don't have the funds to pay the winners. :shock: ..if you win a million or more now on the states games [lotto,lucky day lotto] you get a voucher till the state comes up with the money to pay you..(I'm an idiot, I just tried to cheat the profanity filter)..they will pay you off within a year they say..till then they tell the winners if they need money to take a loan out aginst the voucher.but of course you have to pay intrest on that...

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PostPosted: 30 Jun 2017, 20:19 
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I agree prices have changed. But let's examine this factually;

#1 - Fact remains the PGC is one of the most ineffective wildlife agencies in the US. The only thing the PGC can claim success for is the Wild Turkey.

#2 - They agreed to the slaughter of our deer population for the sake of INSURANCE COMPANIES!

#3 - They have introduced species that were once natives of PA only because they have bent over for DCNR to protect the forests for logging.. Again a 1 BILLION Dollar a year business in PA! (MAYBE THEY SHOULD SEEK MONEY FROM DCNR!)

#4 - And because of this many other animals that were thriving are suffering greatly, TURKEY, GROUSE, DEER, RABBITS, PHEASANTS, ETC!

#5 - They are controlled by a board of POLITICALLY APPOINTED HACKS who have little to no understanding of wildlife management!

#6 - At one time they (SEE SBOVE) named a jackwagon to oversee the PA Whitetail population who was supposedly the FOREMOST "authority" on the Black Bear in PA and this dink made the public statement during one of his talks "I wasn't aware that the mortality rate of fawns caused by black bears was so high!"

You'll note above that he was touted as "THE MOST KNOWLEDGABLE AUTHORITY ON BLACK BEAR IN PA!"

Now a guy who was this smart and was the top black bear biologist in PA and was appointed by the Game Commissioners (HACKS) to head up the Pa Whitetail should have certainly known this fact from all of the supposed field research he had been involved in Don't you think??

My point is simple, you are a person, like many in PA who think the PA Game Commission knows what they are doing and you are wrong and they have mismanaged our natural resources in PA for many years and perhaps a restructuring is in order.

#7 - Times have change in the management of wildlife and the PA Game Commissions practices have not kept up with these changes.

As for the license prices, I would not mind paying a little more for a license if our PA Game Commission had a freakin clue what they were actually doing!

#8 - They are just another agency that is overstaffed, top heavy in the upper management area and until they get their crap together, I am not in favor of any increase!

Perhaps it's not me who's view of the effectiveness of the PA Game Commission is wrong, perhaps it's your view that is askew?

You have the same mentality that many in PA have, The Game Commission knows what they are doing, The PA State Police are Law Enforcements Gods, blah, blah, blah!

I spent 18 years as a Police Officer and knew many Conservation Officer's and they were more worried about writing citations to keep their supervisors off their backs than they were about the management of wildlife!

It is time that PA gets with the times and merges the Fish, Game and DCNR in to one entity and then perhaps no one agency would charge excessive prices for license fees.

Just one more thing for you to digest, Personal Income rates for people in PA has not been exactly jumping thanks to the taxations we suffer and the loss of jobs throughout the Commonwealth and perhaps, more people would hunt and fish if people actually felt they could actually shoot something occasionally to help defray the cost of the license.

Oh and about they gas price, because of the tax placed on our gasoline in PA by the Commonwealth and the Feds (nearly 70 percent) we are the highest!

With all this said, I will still buy my hunting/trapping license, but I won't spend the money to hunt a bird that is only stocked days before and during the season!

Perhaps the Game Commission should attempt to actually re-introduce the species instead of just stocking the chickens prior to and during the season!

And perhaps, you should re-examine your thought process after properly educating yourself before you go off!


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PostPosted: 30 Jun 2017, 22:16 
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Here is what we pay

First you must have an outdoor card...$9.68
small game lic is $25.15 per year or $75.46 for 3 years
fishing lic is $29.46 per year or $88.38 for 3 years.... for me i do not pay as i have a handicap sticker so exempt or if over 65 then free
moose tag $55.70
deer tag $48.43
bear tag $48.43
First trapping lic $39.55 and membership $22.00
second trapping lic $16.95


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PostPosted: 01 Jul 2017, 00:08 
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And they wonder why people poach. :roll: :roll:

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PostPosted: 01 Jul 2017, 07:21 
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well my state did it again...for the third year in a row they didn't pass a budget...way to go ILL.law makers you guys are worth every penny you steal...bravo.Illinois is on the verge of becoming America's first state with a junk credit rating. :evil: :( :(

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PostPosted: 01 Jul 2017, 08:53 
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P.S.

You and the game commission make it sound like we pay $20.50 for this privilege!

I don't know about you, but until I was done supporting the Game Commission last year, I spent close to $70.00 and licenses, permits, tags, etc.

Now that $70.00 may not be an issue for you or me, but for a great many Pennsylvanians it is a great deal of money!

So, when you say they haven't raised prices in x amount of years, true to a point, but like Paul Harvey always said "Let's hear the rest of the story."

We have been inundated with other fees from the commission over these years.

So again, If you are going to stick up for a license increase that will effectively continue to destroy the ability of ALL Pennsylvanians to enjoy OUR natural resources, (note I said OUR, Not the commissions) get your facts in line and tell "the rest of the story!"


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PostPosted: 01 Jul 2017, 12:52 
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Roaddawg, I'm not on here trying to pick a fight. If you read my second post you would have seen that I paid $112.20 for my license this year. Yes, that's not cheap but you also have to put it into perspective.

For that $112.20 I can hunt for deer,bear, turkey and and small game except for pheasant. I can also trap for everything except for otter during the specific seasons of course.

Now if I were to go to a Pittsburgh Steelers football game, which I've been to a few, one ticket averages $125.00, a beer around $12.00, parking $25.00 and the gas to get there which I live about 95 miles east of Pittsburgh.

I pay the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania $86.00 a year for my truck registration. I just bought 4 tires for that truck today which was close to $600.00 and on the way home I stopped to fill the tank which was $60.00.

$112.20 for all of the licensing is may seem steep but put it into perspective it's actually a bargain.

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PostPosted: 01 Jul 2017, 20:11 
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Chieftain wrote:
well my state did it again...for the third year in a row they didn't pass a budget...way to go ILL.law makers you guys are worth every penny you steal...bravo.Illinois is on the verge of becoming America's first state with a junk credit rating. :evil: :( :(


Well at least that"s an accomplishment, things should get better.


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PostPosted: 01 Jul 2017, 20:38 
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Trapperick your not picking a fight. Your being honest and telling what things are. Times are changing and I can say you all are lower then what we pay. Be thankful for that. But I would never give up the payment which permits me to enjoy so much more then others as your selves do. Everything comes with a cost.


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PostPosted: 01 Jul 2017, 22:13 
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wolf1199 wrote:
Trapperick your not picking a fight. Your being honest and telling what things are. Times are changing and I can say you all are lower then what we pay. Be thankful for that. But I would never give up the payment which permits me to enjoy so much more then others as your selves do. Everything comes with a cost.


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PostPosted: 02 Jul 2017, 08:54 
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wolf1199 wrote:
Chieftain wrote:
well my state did it again...for the third year in a row they didn't pass a budget...way to go ILL.law makers you guys are worth every penny you steal...bravo.Illinois is on the verge of becoming America's first state with a junk credit rating. :evil: :( :(


Well at least that"s an accomplishment, things should get better.
...I guess when you hit rock bottom the only direction to go is up...

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Chieftain wrote:
wolf1199 wrote:
Chieftain wrote:
well my state did it again...for the third year in a row they didn't pass a budget...way to go ILL.law makers you guys are worth every penny you steal...bravo.Illinois is on the verge of becoming America's first state with a junk credit rating. :evil: :( :(


Well at least that"s an accomplishment, things should get better.
...I guess when you hit rock bottom the only direction to go is up...


And a lot of sideways.


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PostPosted: 03 Jul 2017, 07:21 
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trappintime wrote:
Chieftain wrote:
wolf1199 wrote:
Chieftain wrote:
well my state did it again...for the third year in a row they didn't pass a budget...way to go ILL.law makers you guys are worth every penny you steal...bravo.Illinois is on the verge of becoming America's first state with a junk credit rating. :evil: :( :(


Well at least that"s an accomplishment, things should get better.
...I guess when you hit rock bottom the only direction to go is up...


And a lot of sideways.
... :D ...things have been going sideways at the state capital here for a long time now...legislation branches are in over time session now..if the budget cant be agreed on.then the shut downs begin..starting with IDOT road construction projects then the state parks..but the Senators and the house Rep.s got their pay raises this year..way to go..got a raise for NOT doing your job....how screwed up is that...

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I think my hunting license will be free this year, I am not sure yet, but will let Y'all know how much I pay at the end of August.

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