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 Post subject: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 01 Jul 2016, 09:54 
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Iam trying to buy my trapping stuff now and i was wonding what would be better to use for drowning a beaver? Wire, Rods, or snare cable? What size wire will hold the best with out kinking?


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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 01 Jul 2016, 16:30 
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I wouldn't recommend wire. It can work, but its a pain. You'd be much better off with rods or cable. Ive always used cable for its variability for the vast variations of water depths I trap...., but if you can get rods to work for your water depth, then they are really good. Wire can work, but it can also be undependable through breakage, and hard to work with.

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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 01 Jul 2016, 22:10 
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Ok. What size cable to you recommend?


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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2016, 10:37 
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Many will use 1/8", but I just use 3/32" and haven't had any issues. Need to check cables used for drowners as quite often it will start to breakdown on the inside. Could look good, but be rotting with corrosion on the inside. On the bottom end, I use a sack full of rocks or sand/dirt. Use rocks if you have much current, as the sand or dirt can get washed from a thinly woven sack and won't be heavy enough to get the job done.


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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2016, 20:28 
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Many will use 1/8", but I just use 3/32" and haven't had any issues. Need to check cables used for drowners as quite often it will start to breakdown on the inside. Could look good, but be rotting with corrosion on the inside. On the bottom end, I use a sack full of rocks or sand/dirt. Use rocks if you have much current, as the sand or dirt can get washed from a thinly woven sack and won't be heavy enough to get the job done.


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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 03 Jul 2016, 10:10 
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Like rem and wolf, my most used is 3/32. I use a fair amount of 1/8 too. The 1/8" resist curling and kinks better, but is more expensive and harder to work with. I'll use either, but as I said, most mine are 3/32, because I built up a slew of them and am still using on the pile. Long term, I will phase them out and replace with 1/8.

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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 05 Jul 2016, 18:05 
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I run rods and wire. the rods are 8' to fit in the truck and are fast. but the wire is easier to carry and can be adjusted to any depth of water. i use 9 gauge and have never lost a beaver. once they hit the bottom of the wire its not long to lights out. everything fits in a feed sack. preloaded in the sack is a trap and a stake. wire is on my hip, with a pair of fencing pliers. backbreaker in my pocket. find a good looking spot, scrounge up some rocks for the sack(plenty here in northwest pa!!)measure out the wire and attach to the sack. toss it out, measure the wire to the bank, cut and slide trap on. attach wire to stake and anchor. set trap and secure with no wobble .i put a couple of "poke" sticks in front of the trap since I go tor front leg catches. make my mud pie and lure it.
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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 08 Jul 2016, 19:11 
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Ok thanks I will try some of these ways as see what way I like the best


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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2016, 22:30 
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Looks good cooncrazy. Just finishing up a nuisance job myself. Beavers are now conibear wise and will not enter sets. Switched to downer sets and have picked up couple more. 11 now. If I may add and no disrespect to anyone but with the way you have your trap bedded for beaver there is the possibility for a foot kick out. The reason I say this is that when the trap is fired the back jaw is coming up behind the front leg and has a good chance of kicking out the foot or making a toe nail catch. By rotating the trap 90 degrees the jaws come from the sides and there is less chance for a kick out. The same rule applied for my land animals when i Used foot holds. I like both front foot catch and hind, but water depth will determine how I set. Front foot catches are great and the water depth does not have to be that deep compared to a hind foot catch.

Just to fill you in a front leg is a lot weaker and not big boned like the hind foot and your chances are higher for a ring off compared to a hind foot catch. Been there and done it and learned from my carelessness. I know this was not mentioned but for a front foot catch i like the pan 3 1/2 to 4 inches under the water, for a hind foot catch about 8 to 9 inches. And also never put your trap dead center. Put your trap a bit to the side where the beaver legs are, other wise you could have belly fur.


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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2016, 23:30 
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Wolf

I believe you mean to rotate the trap 90 degrees. If it is rotated 180, you will still have the same issue. A 90 degree rotation will have the jaws closing from the sides and not front to back.

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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 19 Jul 2016, 08:07 
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remrogers wrote:
Wolf

I believe you mean to rotate the trap 90 degrees. If it is rotated 180, you will still have the same issue. A 90 degree rotation will have the jaws closing from the sides and not front to back.

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LOL, yes 90%. Thanks rem


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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 19 Jul 2016, 22:31 
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#12 today and that finished the job.

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was a nice beaver, tail was foot long and 6 1/2 inches wide.


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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
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wolf1199 wrote:
#12 today and that finished the job.

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was a nice beaver, tail was foot long and 6 1/2 inches wide.


That's a lot of tail for a man your age!

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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
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Swamp Rat wrote:
wolf1199 wrote:
#12 today and that finished the job.

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was a nice beaver, tail was foot long and 6 1/2 inches wide.


That's a lot of tail for a man your age!


Lol!

Wolf, sure looks weird to see you trapping with footholds, in wide open water, and in waders/hip boots! Lol!

If you were in shorts and tennis shoes, id think you were helpin swamp! :P

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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 25 Jul 2016, 11:10 
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Amak wrote:
Swamp Rat wrote:
wolf1199 wrote:
#12 today and that finished the job.

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was a nice beaver, tail was foot long and 6 1/2 inches wide.


That's a lot of tail for a man your age!


Lol!

Wolf, sure looks weird to see you trapping with footholds, in wide open water, and in waders/hip boots! Lol!

If you were in shorts and tennis shoes, id think you were helpin swamp! :P


Yea I know Amak, using foot holds is a last resort for me. They sure work good on shy 330 beavers. Seems like every other year I have to resort to the #4 long spring. But its good, keeps me in practice.

If I was helping Swamp there would be a dead water moccasin lying beside that beaver lol


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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 25 Jul 2016, 16:56 
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wolf1199 wrote:
Amak wrote:
Swamp Rat wrote:
wolf1199 wrote:
#12 today and that finished the job.

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was a nice beaver, tail was foot long and 6 1/2 inches wide.


That's a lot of tail for a man your age!


Lol!

Wolf, sure looks weird to see you trapping with footholds, in wide open water, and in waders/hip boots! Lol!

If you were in shorts and tennis shoes, id think you were helpin swamp! :P


Yea I know Amak, using foot holds is a last resort for me. They sure work good on shy 330 beavers. Seems like every other year I have to resort to the #4 long spring. But its good, keeps me in practice.

If I was helping Swamp there would be a dead water moccasin lying beside that beaver lol


...amd Wolf's ears would be ringing from the "Judge" blasting the snake! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
PostPosted: 25 Jul 2016, 22:39 
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Bingo.....and don't forget festus.


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 Post subject: Re: Beaver drowning
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Bingo.....and don't forget festus.



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