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 Post subject: frezzing traps
PostPosted: 06 Jan 2007, 20:16 
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hello all.
i.m a 30 year old rookie, i am useing bridger #2 with 4 coils, off set. and #3 duke offset 4 coil springs.

i have hunted just about everything that craws here in utah i have decided to try trapping.

i have some good spots and made sets according to the books i have read, i also have a buddy who is helping me learn the ropes.

however, no fur as yet, i have had a couple missed chances, dug up trap, but today we woke up with 2-4 new inches of snow, my sets are under overhangs or ceder trees to keep the snow off them, today i checked them i had tracks on every set, a couple bobcats, a few coyotes and fox. most traps had a track on the pan. what can i do to keep them from freezing?
temp is 0-30 at night daytime up to 40, i am in utahs west desert.

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PostPosted: 06 Jan 2007, 20:22 
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You're traps have frozen up.

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Make sure your sets are scent free, use appealing lures, use Eye appeal for bobcats also, and some people have a way of traps not freezing up. I have heard of people take a Ziploc bag and place your trap in it, but I have never tried this.

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my traps are dyed and should be scent free. i am useing fox urine near my set but not on it. and i'm trying several lure baits, i don't have a favorite yet. i need to catch something 1st.

ziplock bags are an interesting idea , maybe noisy though.
in a catalog i saw some dirt antifreeze you mix with the dirt in your sifter. any good?


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PostPosted: 06 Jan 2007, 20:38 
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Might work.
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my traps are dyed and should be scent free.

That's not always the case. Do you handle your traps bare handed? If so, think about a pair of rubber gloves. Another thing is, try to crouch, not kneel. Your pants might give off scent. Another thing to think about is try to check your sets from a distance. You might just be leaving scent by checking your traps. Canines are very cautious, so be cautious yourself.

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Here's a topic about freezing traps...
http://www.wild-about-trapping.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=493

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nope did not use rubbers and i was kneeling, i will have to work on that.

what does waxing do for a trap? a
nd what about non iodized salt on the dog and hinges.? :?:


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Waxing aids in preventing rusting, and making them faster.
HOT WAX IS EXTREMELY FLAMMABLE AND CAN CAUSE SEVERE BURNS!!!!
If you have a wax fire, smother it with a sheet of metal.
Don't wax Conibear type traps, it makes them dangerous to set

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ok thanks


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You're welcome. :)

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rifle6 wrote:
and what about non iodized salt on the dog and hinges.? :?:

Thats what I use. When making a set I -
-Sprinkle a little in the trap bed
-Bed trap
-Pack dirt around and inside jaws
-Another salt sprinkling
-Final sift
-Light layer of salt on top

Iodized or un-iodized doesnt make a difference. Whatevers cheapest at the grocery store. Traps have fired after -20 temps with this method.

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I answered you on another forum, so I won't again here.

The 1st poster to your question there suggested it was the "oil in the springs" which froze-up. You should pull traps, dip them in turpentine, "re-oil" them, and reset them. :roll:

I'm trying to decide if he was joking or serious :shock:

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anothjer way is fertilizer grade urea from your lawn and garden store sprinkle it in with your siftins or try packing inner jaw and under pan area with insulation and use no pan cover just antifreezed siftings on top

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Bryton wrote:
Waxing aids in preventing rusting, and making them faster.
HOT WAX IS EXTREMELY FLAMMABLE AND CAN CAUSE SEVERE BURNS!!!!
If you have a wax fire, smother it with a sheet of metal.
Don't wax Conibear type traps, it makes them dangerous to set
I did along time ago and it really hurts when it snaps down on the boney part of the hand. I did scrape off the wax on the dog trigger and top bar and they really worked well after that. so you can just have to not wax the top jaws and triggering parts.

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smittystrapmods wrote:
I answered you on another forum, so I won't again here.

The 1st poster to your question there suggested it was the "oil in the springs" which froze-up. You should pull traps, dip them in turpentine, "re-oil" them, and reset them. :roll:

I'm trying to decide if he was joking or serious :shock:

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Doesnt everyone give the trap a shot of wd-40 right before bedding? You know, so it doesnt squeek and scare off the yote. :lol:

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Use some shrink wrap on the bottom and the top, leave it kinda loose so that the tap can shut all the way. Just a guess.


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Keep in mind, if the dirt covering your trapbed contains moisture, it can freeze into a pancake, preventing the pan fron receiving pressure from an animal standing on it. Use dry dirt for covering, and if it snows, then thaws, or rains, you're back to square one.

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thats what im finding with the insulation you can keep your siftings down to a minimum in depth so even if it does freeze itll go thru it when they step on it and the jaws can still come thru it easier but its still not foolproof just works good for me so far
the person that comes up with a foolproof method will be rich if he sells the idea publicly huh

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If you are trapping in the snow, make a bed of grass or dirt or something instead of laying it right on the snow, helps stop the freeze up, pine needles ground up and waxed dirt are the best alternates. Make sure you go scent free!! Rubber gloves and everything!!!

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like my mentor always said remember your setting up on the critters home turf not yours so any scent or wierd disturbances are gonna set off lights in the critters heads hey somethins wrong here
isnt it funny were spending our time talkin about outsmarting grinners or stinkies we could be watching the news or something lol

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No doubt on that, I should be studying right now. :roll: O well, trapping is more important anyways. JK I studied already today. 8)

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There's nothing wrong with being "careful & cautious" concerning scent control at a set....just don't get carried away.

I'm a smoker, just not at a set. I wear rubber gloves in water, not on land. I kneel at a set. I wear my boots all day, even at the gas station between stops. I ride my ATV right to my sets. I have inadvertantly lures sets with my "setting" gloves on.

This year, as an "experiment", I reset the dirty traps (I'd made catches in previously) that I had pulled due to rain.....and still caught coyote in them.

Am I saying to be careless?? Not at all.....I'm just saying don't spend your time tip-toeing around making sets. Make them & get on down the road......

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