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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:58 
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I have a question for you expert trappers about a digger. My brother has been trapping since season opened this year, except for the 2 weeks of deer season. He is using mostly dirtholes , targeting fox and coyote. He has caught one fox and has several more on his trail cameras. He has also caught several coons and grinners. On 3 occasions, at 3 different dirtholes, something dug his bait out of the hole and left it sitting beside the hole. It was not eaten , just left sitting. One of the sets had a trap there at the time, the other 2 did not have a trap at the time because he pulled them for deer season. The bait he is using is called " Predator plus Minnesota brand ". I have never used it so am unfamiliar with it. Any ideas what animal would dig up the bait and just leave it sitting ? He said he could see no tracks or other sign. Thanks for any input. .

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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2014, 17:41 
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some baits don't taste good! it worked, they dug it out, but didn't like the taste.

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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2014, 17:52 
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Well i aint no expert but heres my theory. Most prepared baits i imagine arent very flavorful to eat. My guess would be fox, we always have a few do that stuff every year or so. But, any critter couldve on the ones with no trap, possums, Squirrels etc. even the set with a trap if the holes to vertical they'll do that. Hard to say. Could be any critter taken advantage of a free "meal". If he thinks its a furbearer a different set bearby may help? I wouldnt make a textbook dirthole just in case.

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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2014, 18:12 
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I was thinkin the same thing CC . I've smelled things before that smelled good but tasted like butt. :shock: :shock:

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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2014, 18:15 
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Back, he remade his sets today and used mostly step-down sets. be interesting to see what happens.

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Doc, I've seen red fox do that sort of thing. Reds like their meat well aged, which is how the dirt hole set got its start. Reds were observed catching prey, digging a hole and covering it up. Later, they would come back and dig it up and eat it after it was deemed "just right" for their taste buds....thus the dirt hole set was born. Funny thing is Charles D, said also once they would dig it up and eat it, they would then urinate and deficate on and around the hole. He said thats how folks got started using urine on the backing. He said that was actually a no no for him, because he thought it was a signal that said "this was my food cache, and i have claimed it to eat and now its gone". So he didnt like urine at dirt holes.

Sorry for rambling..... id bet it was a red fox being picky.

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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2014, 23:56 
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Doc, I've seen red fox do that sort of thing. Reds like their meat well aged, which is how the dirt hole set got its start. Reds were observed catching prey, digging a hole and covering it up. Later, they would come back and dig it up and eat it after it was deemed "just right" for their taste buds....thus the dirt hole set was born. Funny thing is Charles D, said also once they would dig it up and eat it, they would then urinate and deficate on and around the hole. He said thats how folks got started using urine on the backing. He said that was actually a no no for him, because he thought it was a signal that said "this was my food cache, and i have claimed it to eat and now its gone". So he didnt like urine at dirt holes.

Sorry for rambling..... id bet it was a red fox being picky.

I never use urine at my dirt holes either. Imo it is not needed. :wink:

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I was thinkin the same thing CC . I've smelled things before that smelled good but tasted like butt. :shock: :shock:

doc,
You are the first I've heard of that eats their canine bait. I imagine it might taste the way you said it did.
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At one time E.J. Dailey took the credit and claimed he invented the dirthole set. He had a whole section of his business dedicated to the dirthole set, specialized digger, metal mokded fox paw, urine, several baits and lures, stakes and chains. He was a salesman lol. Even had a special trap he pushed for it. I forget now which company(maybe Blake & Lamb?)made it but it had EJ as a spokesman. Double underspring., i believe it may have been called the "Daikey Special"?. Gramps had catalogs of his i read and reread as a kid and we both had a lot of his books and pamphlets.

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PostPosted: 15 Dec 2014, 18:06 
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remrogers wrote:
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I was thinkin the same thing CC . I've smelled things before that smelled good but tasted like butt. :shock: :shock:

doc,
You are the first I've heard of that eats their canine bait. I imagine it might taste the way you said it did.
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I wasn't talking about bait, Rem. :wink: :wink: :shock: :lol: :lol:

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doc9013 wrote:
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I was thinkin the same thing CC . I've smelled things before that smelled good but tasted like butt. :shock: :shock:

doc,
You are the first I've heard of that eats their canine bait. I imagine it might taste the way you said it did.
REM


I wasn't talking about bait, Rem. :wink: :wink: :shock: :lol: :lol:

That was funny! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Richard Murray wrote:
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remrogers wrote:
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I was thinkin the same thing CC . I've smelled things before that smelled good but tasted like butt. :shock: :shock:

doc,
You are the first I've heard of that eats their canine bait. I imagine it might taste the way you said it did.
REM


I wasn't talking about bait, Rem. :wink: :wink: :shock: :lol: :lol:

That was funny! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I recall Amak cooking up a fox that smelled delicious! Personally, I think I'd rather eat butt. :shock:

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My brother fed me fox stew and it was good. Meat tends to be a bit stringy though.


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Mohawk wrote:
Richard Murray wrote:
doc9013 wrote:
remrogers wrote:
doc9013 wrote:
I was thinkin the same thing CC . I've smelled things before that smelled good but tasted like butt. :shock: :shock:

doc,
You are the first I've heard of that eats their canine bait. I imagine it might taste the way you said it did.
REM


I wasn't talking about bait, Rem. :wink: :wink: :shock: :lol: :lol:

That was funny! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I recall Amak cooking up a fox that smelled delicious! Personally, I think I'd rather eat butt. :shock:

And if I remember right him and mohawk spit it back out just as quick as it went in. :shock: :lol:

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Richard Murray wrote:
Mohawk wrote:
Richard Murray wrote:
doc9013 wrote:
remrogers wrote:
doc9013 wrote:
I was thinkin the same thing CC . I've smelled things before that smelled good but tasted like butt. :shock: :shock:

doc,
You are the first I've heard of that eats their canine bait. I imagine it might taste the way you said it did.
REM


I wasn't talking about bait, Rem. :wink: :wink: :shock: :lol: :lol:

That was funny! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I recall Amak cooking up a fox that smelled delicious! Personally, I think I'd rather eat butt. :shock:

And if I remember right him and mohawk spit it back out just as quick as it went in. :shock: :lol:

doc as much as I want to im not gonna ask you how you know this :mrgreen:

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