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PostPosted: 16 Apr 2016, 19:04 
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MEDICARE AT AGE 76, IMPORTANT PLEASE READ - ANYONE WHO DOUBTS THIS IS
TRUE CAN DOWNLOAD THE NEW OBAMA CARE AND LOOK UP THE PAGES MENTIONED.
THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING....................THIS should be read by
everyone, especially important to those over 75....... If you are
younger, then it may apply to your parents.









Your hospital Medicare admittance has just changed under Obama Care.
You must be admitted by your primary Physician in order for Medicare
to pay for it! If you are admitted by an emergency room doctor, it is
treated as outpatient care where hospital costs are not covered. This
is only the tip of the iceberg for Obama Care. Just wait to see what
else went into effect in 2014.









YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS... At age 76 when you most need it
most, you are not eligible for cancer treatment * see page 272. What
Nancy Pelosi didn't want us to know until after the healthcare bill
was passed. Remember she said, "We have to pass the Bill so that we
can see what's in it." Well, here it is.









Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number THE CARE BILL HB 3200 JUDGE
KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE
BILL.
Judge KITHIL of Marble Falls, TX - highlighted the most egregious
pages of HB3200. Please read this....... especially the reference to
pages 58 & 59. JUDGE KITHIL wrote:
Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S.
residents, even if they are here illegally.
Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an
individual's bank account and will have the authority to make
electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government)
for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations
(such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now -
ACORN)
Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be
treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with
that?)
Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of
specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.
This is what they do in Sweden too. I know because Alf's daughter Ann
is an OBGYN, and her husband, Thorsten, is a surgeon.........
Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to
the patient's age.
Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on
hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an
exception.
Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning
consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an
"end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)
Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can
write an end-of-life order.










HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify: "Finally, it
is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of
Congress.
No wonder they did not see the need to read it....doesn't apply to
them!!! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO STAND UP TO WASHINGTON .....
I don't know if we can do anything, but awareness helps.

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PostPosted: 17 Apr 2016, 15:06 
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doc- As more of these specific provisions show up from Obama's general "reform" pf medical care, the more that will be challenged in court. People aren't just going to sit and take it sucking on their thumbs (well, some might). The SCOUS only ruled that the overall Obama care was constitutional, not every specific clause in it. Some of them will lose in court.

Politically, as more the bs new changes come to light, the more of a liability it will be for the Dems in the upcoming election. The Repubs have to communicate effectively how they would take some pieces of Obama care such as being denied insurance for pre-existing conditions and tell how they would make a better health care system with their own reforms such as letting insurance companies sell across state lines, although certain insurance companies have already grown so big, such as United Health Care, Humana, and if you combined all the "Blues", that they effective do this already but often with almost no competition. Whether Obama Care or the former system we had, its the health care systems, especially regional ones, and certain insurance companies that at least handle most of the money spinning around. The local hospital I was born in as morphed over that 50+ years into the single largest paycheck signer in the state of South Dakota and its system which spreads across all of e. SD, e. ND, and w. MN takes in tens of billions of $$ a year. It supposedly isn't even a "corporation" and has no accountability except to various forms of government which at the federal level is both their partner and their minder. They played the game that has been developing for decade and have "won".

If I could, I'd burn down the entire third-party medical paying system and start from scratch where the consumer was somewhat in control by knowing what costs were up front (if possible) and making decisions from there. What is the true market cost of non-emergency open-heart surgery?? We have no idea because the market has been so distorted by 3rd party paying over time. Health care will eventually bankrupt the federal government because we'll only be able to pay for it and the interest on the debt. Obama care has just sped things up, probably on purpose...

P.S. A Ob/Gyn does do surgery so they little thing about the 9 million Swedes paying their docs the same and then inferring that a "surgeon" should be paid more than the Ob/Gyn is a little out of context. In the U.S., almost all physicians working for significant hospitals (usually part of regional systems) make at least a quarter million a year and it goes up from there. But I wouldn't want their jobs!!

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PostPosted: 21 Apr 2016, 09:50 
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http://www.naturalnews.com/
This is a very informative investigative site. Caution because you WILL want to hang
Someone.
This is the site that reported the water contamination at the va hosp.
Mike and his crew test foods for hidden ingredients and are up on new laws that both protect us and harm us.
Anyway check it out.

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PostPosted: 21 Apr 2016, 14:59 
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Neat site MSG , thanks !

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